Jonathan Breeden: [00:00:00] Hello, and welcome to another edition of The Best of Johnston County Podcast. I’m your host, Jonathan Breeden. And on today’s episode, we have Johnston County School Board candidate, David Spain. He’s here to talk to us a little bit about his background, where he went to school, he used to be a teacher, and some of the things he’d like to see done for the Johnston County Public Schools if he is elected on November 5th.
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The Best Johnston County Podcast comes out every single Monday. So, we’ve had a lot of great guests, and a lot of great guests coming up in the future. So, please go back and listen to some of the previous episodes with some of our more popular ones included, Donald O’Meara, he’s a realtor out of Smithfield. Our County Commissioner, Chairman Butch Lawter, and County Commissioner, Patrick Harris.
Those are all ones, [00:01:00] we’ve gotten a lot of positive feedback. Anyway, so go back and listen to those. Be listening to the future, a lot of great guests that are gonna be on, and I think you’re really going to enjoy it. If you love Johnston County as much as I do, this is the podcast for you. Welcome, David.
David Spain: Thank you, Jonathan.
Jonathan Breeden: All right, no problem. I appreciate you coming out here to the Cleveland Community to help record this podcast. Just tell us your name, where are you from?
David Spain: I’m David Spain, I live about 5 miles from here. I live off Highway 50 in this area, and I’m in District 4 for the School Board race, which is a new district. And everybody across the County votes for all districts this year. So, I live close by, so it didn’t take me long to get here.
Jonathan Breeden: That’s cool. I don’t know if everybody realizes it, but this is the first year that the Johnston County School Board is being elected by districts. One of the reasons they went to districts was because nobody from Cleveland was on the Johnston County School Board. We had Teresa Grant for a while and everybody loved her, but after she got off, we haven’t really had anybody who lived in the Cleveland Community on the School Board.
And then there were other [00:02:00] areas, there was nobody really from Benson. Meadow for a long period of time, because most of the voters are in Clayton, Smithfield, and Cleveland too. And they seemed to vote for the people they knew there, it was harder for people in other parts of the county. So, I was excited to see them go to this District System. They got the legislature to run the bill because now, there will be somebody on that board from all parts of the county to speak for those schools, even the more rural parts of the county, and somebody to speak for Cleveland.
David Spain: Correct. We need that voice, not only do I speak for Cleveland and down towards McGee’s Crossroads, I’m going to speak for the whole county. I look at the whole ball of wax, not just my area, but our area needs to have some focus. We need to have that voice and I like the idea of the districts.
Jonathan Breeden: And we’ve had Commissioner Districts forever.
David Spain: Yes.
Jonathan Breeden: I think that has worked well for us, but what always got me was there for a while. You had 3 of the Commissioners live within about 4 miles of each other because the district seemed to all meet in Smithfield and that’s where they lived. So, [00:03:00] anyway, it’s not quite that way now, but it was for quite a while. So, anyway, where did you grow up?
David Spain: I’m from Virginia originally, moved here 54 years ago to Cary. So, I went to Cary High School and graduated high school there. We used to play a lot of the Johnston County schools going up and through high school. And then later on, when I coached, after Cary, I went to Campbell University, graduated from Campbell with a Health and Physical Education degree and a Science Minor. From there, I went right into public school teaching. My first job was in Lee County in Sanford. Then I went from there, I had an opportunity at East Wake High School out in Wendell.
And then from there, I went down to Bladen County, Bladenboro, where that high school is no longer there. It’s part of West Bladen now, East Bladen, we played against. So, I’ve been in very rural areas for high school, but I really enjoyed that. And not only a teacher but my first day hired in Lee County, they said, you need to go get a Chauffeur’s [00:04:00] license.
And I said, what do you mean? You have to drive the buses. So, back then, the coaches had to drive the buses. We had to drive the buses for all activities. Now, we could also see through the bus floors on a lot of those buses back then. There was no heat on some of them, and I played in Cary, and there was no heat, and we were just on a wing and a prayer.
So, I’ve seen growth. But I did get my license, I coached down there, and I’d still carry my Chauffeur’s license to this day. But it was fun, I learned a lot in Lee County, and I got an opportunity, and I coached football, wrestling, track, girls’ basketball, and actually, I was a strength and conditioning coach.
I got involved in that in college, and I was in that early area of strength and condition before they even knew anything about strength and conditioning. And then from Sanford, I went to East Wake, which we had a stellar, in fact, at the primaries, I saw Charles Bradshaw, Charles and I coached against each other and coach Avery from South Johnston, I knew [00:05:00] him for years.
So, I’ve known a lot of the coaches in the Johnston County area, coached against them, played against them, whatever, and followed them. And then from East Wake, I got an opportunity to go down to Bladenboro and went down there where I coached football and girls’ basketball and was athletic director.
So, I have a lot of responsibility behind that. I think, one of the most rewarding things of coaching and teaching was the development of young people, not only physically, but also emotionally and spiritually. I’ll give you an example, I used to teach what’s called Physical Education Pupil Instructors, a PEPI program in Wake County.
I was part of it as a student and in later talk, we got seniors, and we took seniors and they went back into the middle school to teach Physical Education, and also to converse with the middle school kids. We also got into Special Needs Kids, and we worked with them for a whole year and took them to Special Olympics.
They actually helped those [00:06:00] kids, and they were young adults, and they brought them through and helped them go through graduation at the end of the year. And you talk about a motivating and very emotional experience. So, a lot of that. And then the other thing was, taking kids on recruiting trips, and just paying for that recruiting trip, taking them and driving them.
You got to know the kids, but you got to know the coaches. So, I did that for 8 years. I was trying to move into the community college, they were expanding at the time, and that didn’t work out. And I had a job offer from a sales company or a company in Tarboro, and they were looking for a sales rep.
And I got into that for a couple of years and then took an opportunity into the pharmaceutical industry where I’ve been the last 34 or 35 years selling products and educating doctors and healthcare providers on the use of products. So, that’s been my career.
Jonathan Breeden: Yeah. And you currently work for Merck, I think. You mainly work with hospitals, I think you told me.
David Spain: Yes.
Jonathan Breeden: And one of the drugs you [00:07:00] work with is an anesthesia drug.
David Spain: Correct.
Jonathan Breeden: So, explain a little bit about like that. I find all of that kind of stuff fascinating.
David Spain: Well, the last 20-some years, I’ve worked in the surgical anesthesia marketplace, and I’ve had a number of different drugs come through there. In fact, 3 or 4 of them were market-setting drugs that changed the face of how doctors would treat you, and actually identify new areas where not only made surgery safer, but it helped with pain management and got people out of the hospital sooner. So, it was an overall economic. The most recent drug I have, the best way to describe it for most people is to tell them, it’s a Narcan for a paralytic. When you go in to have a surgery, they’re going to paralyze you. So, you want to breathe again, right?
Jonathan Breeden: I do.
David Spain: So, to get you breathing in less than 3 minutes, they’re going to give you my drug, and they’ll wake you up with less than 3 minutes of that paralytic being gone. And that’s an advantage to not only anesthesia but the surgeons and the hospitals themselves. So, it not only saves money, [00:08:00] it makes safety for the patient. So, that’s what I do.
Jonathan Breeden: That’s cool. Do you travel the country? You travel the state?
David Spain: No, I have all of Eastern North Carolina. In my career, I’ve done Eastern North Carolina in the past. I started in Wilson, but I’ve covered almost every hospital in North Carolina at one point. Before I came to Merck, I was with a company called UCB, and this was in the epilepsy marketplace.
Now you talk about understanding special needs and kids with special needs. And I’ll be willing to bet you that seizures are going undetected in our public schools today. Because seizures are very different, we need to raise that awareness and look at that. And I think a lot of that is ADHD and things, whatever. But that was a very interesting marketplace, and I was there, I was a Population Health Partner.
I looked at avenues to make health care more accessible, and bring more equity among health care, and help outside of just the drugs themselves, and I covered multi-states.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh, that’s pretty cool. So, when did you move to Johnston [00:09:00] County?
David Spain: I moved 5 years ago. My wife and I had a family farm, about 4 miles from where I live now. My wife’s family is from Johnston County, her cousin teaches here. They’re all from Johnston County, the Pleasant Grove area. We were connected with that area and the churches down there on another thing. But we decided to get out of farming, and we were getting too old.
We were niche farmers, we were small farmers. We did it all, my son, my wife, and I, we attended 3 farmers’ markets. We work with North Carolina A and T on growing mushrooms. So, I could be called a fungi, and I have a t-shirt that says that. But we were one of the first mushroom growers in the state. We were probably the largest shiitake grower in the state. So, we covered Durham Farmers Market, if you’ve not been to one of the best farmers markets, it’s Durham and Carrboro.
We’d started North Hills, and my son actually took it over at 8, 9, and 10 years old and ran it himself. And my wife went to Cary, which became [00:10:00] Western Way. But we did mushrooms, we did quail, we did goats. I was a member of the Johnston County Goat Growers Association. We did bees, we did pawpaws. If you’re not familiar with pawpaws, look into that fruit, it’s a missing fruit. They’re actually in season now. If you can find it, it tastes like a banana mango.
We did ducks and chickens, and if you’ve not had a duck egg, you’re missing it. We did ducks and chickens for meat and eggs, we raised loofah, we raised elderberries, we raised oriental persimmons and figs. So we did a lot of niche products.
My wife also made goat milk soap. We did our goats for meat, but she had some dairy goats that we did for that. We didn’t get into the cheese, were not too big, or not able to do that because we kept it kind of niche. And we didn’t want to go into debt. Small farmers don’t have a lot of money and I did not quit my job, so I did that on the side.
But mushroom growing is fun. It was very intensive, but we enjoyed it over time, and then we decided to [00:11:00] downsize, and Johnston County was our first goal to come here. It worked out that we came to this area, and we just loved it up in this area.
Jonathan Breeden: I love it in this area too. I came here in 2000, and I’ve been right here in this living, and working in this community the whole time. I think that’s fascinating. So, even though you weren’t living in Johnston County, you were only a couple miles away and you were involved in the Johnston County stuff. So, what’s your wife’s family’s name?
David Spain: My wife’s family was Sauls. Sauls is very much around Wake County and even into Johnston County. There’s all kinds of Sauls, and her mother’s family were Markhams that were in Johnston County.
So, we have a real big connection to these two counties in this specific area which they all really, through churches, and organizations, they all knew each other. It’s amazing, people grew sweet potatoes together and went to the tobacco markets and all of that.
Jonathan Breeden: I knew Vann Sauls, the attorney, and a lot of people, cause I went to church at Providence Presbyterian Church on 210 at McGee’s Crossroads for 10 years. And so, I met a ton of great [00:12:00] people down there, Richard Jones, and Jones Farm Supply, and he’s also got propane.
Just a lot of great people down in that part of the county as well, that’s cool. You’re living your life, you move to Johnston County, you’ve got your pharmaceutical business, but you then decide to run for school board. Why?
David Spain: I was a public school teacher. And to be honest with you, I don’t think a lot of things have changed. Yeah, there’s new technology and stuff, but I still see some of the same things, and across the board from when I was there in the 80s through the 90s following public education. It’s the same things that keep cropping up.
And if you look at the numbers, the numbers are not stellar in North Carolina, even though we have a tremendous community college system. So, why is our public education for K through 12 not performing at standards? Plus the fact that my wife and I decided to homeschool.
We did that first because we saw a deficiency in the schools around the Garner area because that’s where our son would have [00:13:00] gone. We started that because we wanted to give him an advantage and tailor his education, which is happening a lot now across the country. They’re tailoring their education for kids based on kind of their learning styles, which I think we need to look at.
As we did the home education, we learned what he was missing and the quality that we could give, but we also turned it spiritually. We wanted to develop that spiritual part of our son and our family as we went along and walked with him, which allowed us a lot of opportunities. Because from there, we got involved in the First Lego League.
If you’re familiar with the First Lego League, starts at a really young and goes, my son was on the state championship team in North Carolina, but actually could not go to worlds because they left North Carolina out that year. So, they ended up going to another tournament, but they did that for 2 or 3 years, and then you go to the next level of first.
He did that, we were able to do homeschool football. I coached homeschool football and helped develop their tackle football around Raleigh in that [00:14:00] area. We were able to do ABRO, where ABRO is American Belarussian Relief Organization, where we brought kids over from Belarus to get them out of that nuclear toxicity for summer, which actually prolonged their health.
And unfortunately, the president decided to cut that off because somebody in another part of the country won against the rules. And then a lot of other things, we were able to take part in the veterans constitutional oratory contest and came to Johnston County as part of that. And they still do it, which a lot of kids don’t know about, and great scholarship.
So, it gave us a lot of flexibility to do outside things. In fact, he participated in Christian Youth Theater, as they call CYT in the Garner area, very famous around a lot of homeschoolers, but also a lot of churches. So, we have participated in that for years. So, he developed really a love for stage and theater.
We found that we could do a lot of things in a short period of time with high-quality education, but also give us [00:15:00] flexibility to farm, to teach that entrepreneurial spirit, and to just take advantage of other avenues out there. That’s what we do.
Jonathan Breeden: No, it’s great. And a lot of great information there in that answer. The First Program, which is F I R S T and I wish I knew exactly what that stands for is still out there. I have been involved with it, and they still have teams. Now, when you get into high school, they build robots, and these robots go around, and they shoot balls, and they climb walls, and they run into each other like BattleBots, like you see on TV. And they get points based on how well their robot runs autonomously.
Somebody drives it for a while, and the robot has to do 7 to 10 different things. And it is absolutely amazing. They did several of the state competitions at Campbell when I was on the board of the Johnston Community College when I was on that board. And Johnston Community College helped sponsor that with Campbell.
And I went down and participated in that with Lieutenant Governor Dan [00:16:00] Forest was there. And even after I wasn’t involved with the college, I wasn’t on the college board any more, I still go if I can find out where it is because I just love to go and watch the robots run into each other, take my kids, it’s a ton of fun.
So, that program is still out there. He also talked about Christian Theater, Spiritual Twist is still involved in Garner. My daughter was in that program this summer. I just went to a production of Ben-Hur that they just did. And so, if you are interested in any kind of Christian Theater, Spiritual Twisting owner would love to talk to you and have you. It’s a tremendous program, a lot of really good people there.
This is great, those are two things that I’m extremely familiar with that you did, and a lot of good people with Spiritual Twist, a lot of good people involved with the First Program and those competitions. And they went to costumes, and they do chants, it’s like going to a football game, except you’re going to cheer for robots that run into each other. So, it’s cool.
David Spain: One thing about that is it starts at a very early age. There’s 3 levels of it, and you’re talking a lot about the advanced high school level, which really [00:17:00] is education in itself. Because they have to use math skills, they have to use welding skills, they have to use all these skills.
The one my son participated in most was the intermediate, and they have to get a mat every year with all these challenges, and you have to learn to program a computer, and build a robot to solve that. So, it’s a different way of learning and it challenges you to do a lot of different things. But all those programs and if you’re really into sports at the time my son was coming up and years before, we couldn’t participate in sports and in schools.
So, we started developing our own sports leagues, and that’s where homeschool football came in, and it really helped a lot of kids, and it’s grown since that time, and a lot of places have the teams that they support.
Jonathan Breeden: Yeah. And we’re fortunate, my son plays basketball for the South Wake Sabres. And there’s tons of other homeschool groups that we play and other private and public schools around all over North Carolina, actually. So, there’s a lot of opportunities out there for people and it’s great.
You’re talking about those things because we’ve been [00:18:00] involved in several of those things ourselves. But let’s talk about, why you decided to run for the Johnston County Public School Board. You homeschooled your son, you saw some different things, you were a school teacher. Given the somewhat dysfunction of the current board, I can’t imagine anybody really wanting to run, but I’m glad people did.
David Spain: To be honest with you, Jonathan, it was on my heart for a long time. And I’ve been involved in watching education in North Carolina. And I keep scratching my head about a lot of things that they’re doing. We just keep spinning our wheels in certain instances. Over the months before December, the filing, God just put it in my heart that if I need to get off the sidelines, I can’t keep complaining anymore, I’ve got to do something.
And I was listening to a lot of podcasts, and things of men across the country who were taking that role and stepping up to stand in the gap for their children, to make sure that the future generations get the quality they deserve. And the other thing is, I think sometimes we’re doing a good job.
I think the teachers [00:19:00] are trying to do the best they can, but I think there’s sometimes a disconnect overall in our whole education system on how it’s run. And I want to try to bring a fresh approach and really see where we can take Johnston County, and get it back to that pinnacle that it was a few years ago of leading, not only the State of North Carolina but be a model for the rest of the country. And that’s why I want to step up, for a number of different reasons.
Jonathan Breeden: And we were, and we had tremendous leadership with Dr. Croom, who arguably, he’s one of the best superintendents in North Carolina, possibly in the whole United States at the time. And now, he’s at Mount Olive College, and he’s done a great job for Mount Olive.
I’m a huge fan of Dr. Croom’s. I don’t think we’ve had quite the leadership that we’ve had since he left us a few years ago. But I know you got a platform, you got 4 things you’re trying to work on.
David Spain: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: What are those?
David Spain: So the first thing, let’s talk about what’s really in the news right now. And I think it comes to the heart of, what’s happening in our schools. And [00:20:00] that’s Title IX. If you’re familiar with Title IX, I was in high school when Title IX came out. There were very little girls’ sports, there was some but there wasn’t a lot of really funded girls’ sports in high school. And that was a disservice to our females.
But since that time with Title IX, and Title IX affects not only female athletes but also can affect males on how this current administration wants to use it. Title IX’s thing is that girls need the equal right to have sports to play against girls. We don’t need to have males with gender identity saying they are females to participate in that.
Let’s take the example of the volleyball player in the Western North Carolina, who took a severe concussion because a male was playing volleyball, that hurt that kid. There’s a girl in Connecticut, she trained and was one of the top sprinters in the state on track to get a scholarship until they allowed the gender identity of males to come [00:21:00] over and participate. And that took away her chances of winning the state races that she wanted to win because she couldn’t compete.
There’s a number of different things. Title IX is an attack, and I will mention this, North Carolina is the only state, thanks to Josh Stein, that did not file a lawsuit to stop the Biden administration reconfiguring 39 words to 1,500 pages of a new law. This is the only state, so we’re under attack. However, North Carolina school districts can file with a group if they join these members and they can slow it down. But let’s start at our school systems and put that policy in.
Jonathan Breeden: But the legislature passed a law that says, men are not going to be playing women’s sports in North Carolina, or at least they did. Hopefully, that’s going to hold.
David Spain: The Supreme Court already ruled in August that they need to stop this and cannot implement it. But if you’re taking federal funds, they can implement it here, even though the state is past these rules, that’s coming from the federal. So, we have to look at [00:22:00] that and how we can stop this. As you know, a lot of this doesn’t follow procedure.
So, I want to reinforce not only the Title IX and protect our girls. Because it will open restrooms, it’ll open college dorms, it’ll open all of this if you just claim you’re a female. So, we need to have sure protection. And part of this is also the parents’ bill of rights which people need to read and understand their bill of rights.
But I think that number one is, really protecting our females and making sure they have equal but opportunities across the board without having to worry about males.
Jonathan Breeden: And I know one of your things is school safety. What are your plans for school safety?
David Spain: Safety is a number of different things in that. Number one, we need to look at how we’re funding our schools as far as SRO officers are concerned. But we need to have a uniform policy across of, what can guide our whole system of what you can and cannot do and enforce it across the system.
Teacher safety, we need to hold that [00:23:00] policy and make sure teachers are safe and don’t have to worry about that. We also need to allow the teachers to have a mechanism to speak up if they need to, without a fear of reprisal. So, that they can voice their concerns to the right people without having to fear that they’re gonna lose their job, or they’re gonna be treated differently, or whatever.
Because we need to have that teacher’s feedback. We need to hear from really boots on the ground, what’s going on? What do they need to do? Cell phones. Cell phones, you can see a lot of different studies out there about mental health and cell phones. Actually read us an interesting article that said that cell phones were not the number one cause for mental health.
They’re in a contributor and they distract in school, so they need to be monitored. But not having free playtime was one of the biggest things that help destroy kid’s mental abilities in school. Drug education, listen to a podcast the other day, Fentanyl is killing kids left and right across this country. And it’s being hidden in various drugs that they’re getting at these parties.
And kids are [00:24:00] taking it thinking, or even at college, or they want to stay up and it’s been laced in there, and they’re dying. Because they don’t know how much they’re getting. One girl lived and one girl died when they split a tablet because the other one had that.
We need a comprehensive drug education. And another part of safety is inappropriate books in our library, age-specific inappropriate. All of these come to health, and safety, and just overall discipline in our schools to make sure that every child in North Carolina gets the rights to their education as spelled out in our constitution.
Jonathan Breeden: And you, being a conservative, do you want to be physically responsible with the taxpayer’s dollars? We asked Butch Lawter this on a previous episode, the Johnston County school system enrollment has gone flat, it has been flat for the last 3 to 4 years. But yet the county has funded the school system from 79 million to 107-108 million I think, this year. But yet we’re still got the same number of teachers, but that’s what the school board’s asking for. I don’t [00:25:00] understand it.
David Spain: I know. Number one, I applaud the commissioners, there need to be kudos. However, we do need to have a better look at what the budget is and where that money is going. So, I’m proposing a line item, easy-to-read publicized budget that everybody in Johnston County knows where that money is going. So, that we can appropriate the money to the teachers when they need it. And not buy things that will never be used, or put in a closet, or whatever when they spend $2 or $300,000,000 or $200,000 or whatever the case is, and they’re never used or they’re inappropriate.
So, we need to drill down on this, because we need to raise scores but save money. We need to be judicious, be conservative about where it’s going. But get the best bang for our buck when we spend it, and make sure it’s going to the right places. Teachers don’t need to spend money out of their pockets.
We need to get that money into there, let’s give them the programs that they can better use. Let’s get it to where the children will benefit most because it’s all, bottom line, it’s all about [00:26:00] kids, it’s all about the kids and how they improve themselves. Because they’re the face of Johnston County, and that’s what I’m looking at is a comprehensive budget.
Now, along with that is, that comprehensive budget will put the funds where it needs to go so that we can raise scores and attainment. You know about the I-95 / I-40 Alliance with businesses coming here that they’re doing down there. They’re gonna need to be jobs for these kids, and they need to have a firm foundation on a classical education that’s back to basics so they can either go to trades, they can go to an apprenticeship, they can go to JCC, they can go to a job.
Not everybody needs to go to college, and I’ll be honest with you. College is draining our kids and putting them in debt. And there’s very few professions now that really need college anymore. Go get these professions, get the basics to be a productive citizen in high school, preparing you for that next move where you can get out [00:27:00] and make a great living.
So, that’s go along with the other thing is, scores and attainment and providing. These companies are coming in and the companies are already here like Novo Nordisk, and Grifols, and all the other companies that are coming in, adequately prepared individuals that are ready to move into that workforce. Stay here in Johnston County, help them with farming. We’re losing our farming. Kids need to be able to learn to farm again and be productive with that. So, that kind of answers 2 questions.
Jonathan Breeden: No, it does. You’ve got a lot of great ideas and it sounds like you clearly thought about all the things that you want to do when you get onto the school board. So, we wrap this up here. What is the thing you love most about Johnston County?
David Spain: I love the ruralness. I think that’s funny, I like being out in the country, and I know it’s growing. But the people are the salt of the earth here because they grew up in a rural community where they knew each other.
They went to church together, they had that community atmosphere, and that’s what’s going to make schools [00:28:00] better, is continuing that community, and building that community and fostering, going forward. I think I like the community the best thing of all.
Jonathan Breeden: That’s great. I love the community, I love the people. Really, this is a tremendous place. And even though it has grown so fast, it still has a small-town feel to me. And I go places I don’t recognize anybody anymore, and that’s not how it was when I first got here.
We would like to thank David Spain for being our guest on this episode of The Best of Johnston County podcast. He’ll be on your ballot on November 5th, he is running against April Lee. It’s a one-on-one matchup between him and April Lee. They were the top vote-getters in the primary for District 4. So be looking on the ballot. You gotta keep going, it’s gonna be on the back of the ballot because the front of the ballot’s gonna be the president, all that.
So, make sure you finish your ballot and go all the way to the end. How can people get up with you?
David Spain: My website is there it’s DavidSpain4JoCo.com. And then I’m on Facebook, I’ve got two sites on Facebook. It’s David Spain and then it’s [00:29:00] DavidSpain4JoCo.
Jonathan Breeden: All right. So, that’s how you can get up and learn more about David Spain and his campaign. And if you want to help him with his campaign, you’d be glad to accept any volunteers or donations you want to give. If you like what you heard, or have any future questions for him, definitely reach out to him. And like I said, if you like what you heard, he is on the ballot, on November 5th for the District 4 race.
So, the Johnston County Board of Education, and make sure you keep voting. He’s going to be at the very end of the ballot and all those races on the back of the ballot are just as important as the races on the front of the ballot. So, I encourage everybody to finish your ballot and vote all the way down till you get to the end of the races. Until next time, I’m your host, Jonathan Breeden.
