
A New Chapter for Johnston County: My Conversation with Mike Rose
Jonathan Breeden: [00:00:00] On this week’s episode of The Best of Johnston County Podcast. My guest is Johnston County Commissioner Mike Rose. He was appointed in December of 2024 to fill a term of somebody who was no longer gonna be on the county Commissioners. We talk about. His growing up in Princeton, going to Princeton High School, NC State in East Carolina, his small t-shirt business there in the town of Princeton.
All the things that he loves about Princeton and some of the things he did on the Princeton Town Board for 11 years and why he decided to put in and get appointed Johnston County Commissioner. I think you’ll find it fascinating and interesting about what his vision is for the county. So listen in.
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Jonathan Breeden: Hello and welcome to another edition of The Best of Johnston County Podcast. I’m your host, Jonathan Breeden, and on today’s episode we have a brand new Johnston County Commissioner. Just appointed back in December. Mike Rose and he’s here to talk to us a little bit about why he wanted to become a county commissioner.
His time on the Princeton Town Board and his business that does screen printing for t-shirts and stuff like that. I think you’re gonna find this Information fascinating. I’ve enjoyed talking to him before we started recording this and y’all need to get to know him because he now represents all of y’all on the board of Commissioners and he wants to hear from y’all as well so he can do a better job.
But before we get to that, I wanna like ask you to like, follow and subscribe to this podcast wherever you’re seeing it. Whether it be on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, YouTube, TikTok, LinkedIn, or Instagram or anywhere else you can find The Best of [00:02:00] Johnston County Podcast. The Best of Johnston County Podcast comes out every single Monday.
And if you would also do us a favor, leave it as a five star review down below. It will help us reach more people in Johnston County so that they will learn more about why I and you and Mike Rose loves Johnston County. Welcome Mike. Thanks. Appreciate it. All right. No problem. So, what’s your name? What you do?
Mike Rose: Alright, yeah. My name’s Mike Rose. I’m from Princeton. Newest county commissioner as you said, and also own quick shirts in Princeton. This is our 30th year. So, I’ve been from Johnston County pretty much all my life. I grew up here went to Princeton High School as well. Graduated went to school there K through 12.
And had my business located there, lived there. And just loved Johnston County and loved the opportunity to serve.
Jonathan Breeden: I got you. Did you go anywhere to school after you went to Princeton schools?
Mike Rose: Yep. Yep. So I did I actually graduated from East Carolina University and that was a pretty fun time.
Did go to NC State before that and transferred during my college when I changed majors, but then I was a teacher and taught at [00:03:00] Smithfield Selma and Princeton. And also I did a little short stint over at the what we call the safe schools, the Alternative Learning Center.
And so yeah, I had a, all together about a nine year teaching career. I. Started my screen printing business on the side to make a little extra money. ’cause everybody knows teachers don’t make all that much money. And also when I was teaching, I also coached and coached my kids as they came up through Little League and all that kind of fun stuff.
So yeah, just you know, trying to have a successful business here now for, like I said, 30 years. And, it’s been a worn a lot of hats over the years saying this county commissioner hat is the latest one.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh my goodness. That’s, yeah. That, that is something else. I think East Carolina being the NC State guy.
Yeah. I went up to that bowl game and it’s raining and the East Carolina guy ran 80 yards to beat us. That was. Painful. But anyway, that’s how,
Mike Rose: oh, no, no, no. My, so always been NC State fan as well, so I didn’t want to go to that game on purpose because I would be conflicted. But in 1991, when NC [00:04:00] State played ECU in the Peach Bowl, that was my senior year in college.
And we went, and that was the game where ECU came back from 17 down in the fourth quarter they did to beat NC State. And of course I was all purple and gold. But it was.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh that’s awesome. Yeah. That’s awesome. Yeah, yeah. No, it’s great. It’s great. There’s no doubt about that. So, alright, well let’s look and talk a little bit about your print business.
Mm-hmm. What y’all do what y’all do for businesses or community groups or whatever. So, I mean, I don’t know, you print shirts?
Mike Rose: Yeah, yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Hats. I mean, what all kinds of stuff do you print?
Mike Rose: Okay. So yeah, our business is called quick Shirts and our, our domain is quick shirts.com. Easy to remember.
And yeah, we print t-shirts for all kinds of events. A lot of businesses we do embroidery. We do screen printing a couple of new technologies that are out there called DTG and DTF, where you can actually make digital prints and you can do one-offs. So that’s been a, a big holdback of screen printing.
It’s a lot of setup involved, so you don’t want to do small orders. But with [00:05:00] this we have the ability to do full color on as little as one shirt and, so we’re actually in the process of revamping our website right now to try to take advantage of that and yeah, so we’re hoping for a big year.
But like I said, we’ve been doing it for 30 years and I started in my garage actually in my attic space. I was teaching and I needed some extra money and I was scrolling through Entrepreneur Magazine and I was looking at all these franchises that you had to have half a million dollars, you know, to start.
And Of course had to keep rolling, keep scrolling. And then at the back there was a little, little black and white ad about print t-shirts. So I sent off to this company in Florida and they sent me a brochure and then I said, yeah, I wanna do that. And I put $1,700 on a credit card and got some little rudimentary.
Equipment and a book and a VHS tape and figured out how to print t-shirts and started taking orders. And here we are 30 years later, so,
Jonathan Breeden: oh man. That’s great. That’s great. So y’all print anything other than t-shirts?
Mike Rose: So we [00:06:00] do you know, pretty much any kind of apparel that you can wear. Okay. So, yeah, anything you can wear.
And we also do banners and vehicle graphics and promotional items, cups, pins, and, you know. Mugs, all that kind of stuff.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh, Cool. Cool. That’s great. That’s great. That’s great. so he says it’s quick shirts.com That’s right. All together.
Mike Rose: Yep.
Jonathan Breeden: So anyway, so yeah. So people will, if you need any of that kind of stuff mm-hmm.
Reach out to him for that. Yep. So you were on the Princeton Town Board for 11 years, correct. When did you first run for the Princeton Town Board, and why did you run?
Mike Rose: Okay, so, it was a similar situation. There was a guy who was moving outta town outta the town limit so he could no longer serve.
And I heard about it and I got a few phone calls you know, urging me to put in for it. And so it was that first. First couple years was an appointment. And then I ran and successfully was elected twice after that and was into this last term was about a year into it. When once again a spot vacated.
And I got a lot of phone calls immediately. Saying this is, [00:07:00] we need you to represent, you know, the eastern side of the county. Make sure that, you know, we’ve got representation. And you know, with the 11 years of experience and already having been served on some committees with a lot of the other commissioners and having a pretty good understanding of, of what was going on, I felt like That’s why I was chosen for the appointment because it has been a change for me. but I would say it’s just the same things we were doing just on a bigger scale.
Jonathan Breeden: A much bigger scale. Much bigger scale Right. From the town to the county. Yeah. Yeah. I can understand that. Mm-hmm. But, but there is something about being an elected official.
Yeah. And you know, all the rules and open meeting rules Yeah. And zoning decisions you have to make and, you know, engineering for new buildings and all of that. Mm-hmm. So, I mean, you’re not, it’s the same thing when we. Butch Lawter was on the Clayton County Council for a long time. Mm-hmm. Before he gotta the county commissioners.
Yep. He sort of said the same thing, a lot of the same stuff, just on a bigger scale. Mm-hmm. And he felt like that shortened his learning curve mm-hmm. When he became a county commissioner. I believe in 2018.
Mike Rose: Mm-hmm.
Jonathan Breeden: Mm-hmm. So I’m hoping that’ll shorten your learning [00:08:00] curve as well. Yeah,
Mike Rose: I hope so too.
And we actually just attended the School of Government. Had a, a two day class down in New Bern and we just attended that. and there was a lot of good information that we got there, but it was a lot of the things that we had been doing on the municipal level. But and then a few of those things I was thinking maybe we were probably not doing exactly right on the town level.
So, but nothing major but yeah, it was a great class and we were able to attend it and, and, you know, everything from ethics to you know, just basically how a meeting should go and what, what you should be responsible for.
Jonathan Breeden: Yeah. somebody told me that they went to that class and they spent a day and a half telling you things you can’t do.
Yeah. And a half a day telling you things you can do.
Mike Rose: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. That was part of the, that was kind of part of the rules is that you know, if the law says, you know, it’s allowed. Well, basically the way it works is the law has to say it’s not allowed and it’s if it doesn’t say it’s not allowed, then it’s allowed.
And so, yeah. So there was a lot of that that came up.
Jonathan Breeden: Well, that’s interesting. So what are some of the [00:09:00] things that you are most proud of that you did on the Princeton Town Board?
Mike Rose: So there were several things, but the, a couple things that come to mind right now are, are actually pretty recent developments.
So, a few years ago when we had these massive rains and I, I’m trying to remember what year it was. It was maybe what was that? 2018? 2019. It was just, it just seemed like it just rained every day in the, in the summer. And we were getting, you know, eight inches this day and 10 inches that way.
Anyway, we had, situation where our sewer plant had a lot of INI issues where you know, storm water was entering the sewer plant and it caused our numbers to spike. And DEQ put us on a sewer moratorium. No more additions, no more housing permits. No nothing. And. We spent a lot of money trying to fix those problems.
So we had gotten our, numbers down so that we were still, we were only about 60 to six, about 60% capacity. During those overflow times, we were at 90 to a hundred percent capacity. And that’s, and DEQ has these rules in place because if they [00:10:00] see you hitting at 90%, they know that your sewer plant is maxed and you need to upgrade your sewer plant.
But that wasn’t our case. we were, we just had some issues that got worked out. So, we had basically had been told no a few times that our, our moratorium could not be lifted. And basically I had an idea, I, floated toward the new mayor and, and The town administrator and they did the town administrator put together some some charts with our town engineer and everything, and we were able to get some help from Larry Strickland and Benton Sawrey.
And we got that moratorium lifted, which was a huge deal because we were at a standstill. We had developers, we had people that wanted to build in town, and we couldn’t issue permits. So we got that done. And that was. You know, that was one of the biggest things that we, right.
Jonathan Breeden: Well, he’s talking about DEQ, which is the Department of Environmental Quality, I guess.
Right. And that’s the state regulators Who oversee that kind of stuff. Y’all also had some flooding in town. Mm-hmm. And you had to rework some storm water to [00:11:00] fix that. Yep. Tell me a little bit about that.
Mike Rose: Yeah, so, we did have a lot of storm water issues and I, along with the rest of the town board and and the former mayor, we were able to get some funding from, the state and also from USDA to go in and rework a lot of our storm drains and send water.
we have a major, we call it, it’s called the Beaver Dam Creek. It runs right through the middle of town, and that’s where all the. The water basically goes out of town. And, and so we, we had to do a lot of cleanup of that because during those floods, like you were talking about, everything that was loose from tires to appliances, to everything had floated and then gone downstream and damned up down there.
And so we had to spend a lot of money just cleaning that, that creek out to get water to flow. So that’s still ongoing. And that’s, that’s one of those things like, you know, you don’t ever fix it. It is just you get it better. Then you just keep, keep tweaking it.
Jonathan Breeden: Right.
Well, for those people who are listening that may have not ever been to Princeton or haven’t been to Princeton in the last five to seven years, what are some of the changes they would see [00:12:00] there? That, and why should they go visit Princeton now?
Mike Rose: Okay. Yeah. So Princeton there’s been a lot of residential growth in, the outskirts of Princeton, which is also driving a lot of business growth in town.
We did a little, it actually went around myself and did a little informal photo essay of all the empty businesses in Princeton not that long ago, about seven or eight years ago. And it was it was probably only about half capacity. and since then. Every building is filled. There’s nothing that’s for rent.
There is we’ve got two new restaurants. We’ve got some gift shops that downtown. There’s a wonderful coffee shop and there’s a lot of people that come into town now for those things. and, you know, and my business actually, I’ll say, you know. It’s the kind of business we don’t really just rely on just Princeton.
We have probably a you know, a 30 mile radius of people who come to us, and so they come here and then in my shop and then. They get a coffee or they go across the street and get a hamburger, you know, so it all kind [00:13:00] of, you know, works together like that. And, and then same thing. They may go next door and get a coffee shop, coffee, and then, hey, there’s a t-shirt place over there, you know?
Jonathan Breeden: Well, what are the two new restaurants?
Mike Rose: So two new restaurants are Oli & and Eli’s, which is your typical kind of, hamburger hotdog grill. Okay. They serve, of course, Carolina Packers red hot dogs only. And they did have one of our, our Northern Friends that has moved down. He, he insisted.
For the brown hot dogs.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. All right.
Mike Rose: The brown hos brown hot dogs lasted a, a very short time. Okay. They didn’t, they didn’t make it so, anyway, that’s one restaurant. And then the other one is Bread & Bottle. And it’s a kind of a neat restaurant that serves more of like Panini’s big salads food you wouldn’t really expect to get in Princeton.
And it’s, it is really nice. And they have a full bar and they do they have a cooler full of sodas and beers and everything, and they probably like a hundred. Different sodas and a hundred different beers and everything to choose from.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh man. In Princeton.
Mike Rose: In Princeton, yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh, that’s awesome. That’s awesome. Well, that’s great and they have live music and [00:14:00] everything. They have a little stage.
Jonathan Breeden: Oh man. Well that’s really nice.
Mike Rose: Yeah.
Jonathan Breeden: I didn’t know that. I see. I gotta go to Princeton.
Mike Rose: Yep.
Jonathan Breeden: There’s no doubt about that. Mm-hmm. So, well, let’s transition a little bit and talk about why you decided to put in for this appointment.
Okay. And get appointed. County commissioner in December of 2024.
Mike Rose: Okay. Yeah, like I said, I was just doing my thing, you know, town commissioner, quick shirts, you know, that kind of thing. And then was not actually following the trial that was going on and. I just got a phone call. I got a phone call, then another phone call, and then another phone call.
And they were telling me what was going on and they were like, we need you. We need you. And and so I thought about it for the weekend. That was, I think it was a Friday. and I knew that applications will be opening up and so I decided, yeah, I think that this would be a good opportunity because I do feel like and, and you know, maybe this is ’cause we’re all from, you know, the small, smaller towns, all smaller towns probably have a kind of a little chip on their shoulder.
Like, we always get left out, you know? [00:15:00] Right, I agree. And, and, and, so I felt like having a little bit of a knowledge of what’s going on might give me a little bit of a, an advantage and that we didn’t need representation down from, our end. My district is actually a pretty large district.
It, it goes from Princeton all the way to Southern Ana County, down to around Benson area, including Four Oaks and Bentonville area. But the way that the way that the rules worked it went by the way the district was written during the last election, which didn’t include all the way to Benson.
And so it was a little bit smaller and the two main criteria where you had to be at the same party and be in the same physical district as the last person was elected. Right? And so I met that and I thought. Yeah, it’s time. It is time. And I want to keep representing Princeton. I wanna keep representing Johnston County and my entire district.
So I thought you know, this is the time I should try.
Jonathan Breeden: Right? And for those of y’all listing, there was an election in 2022. The person that was elected ultimately was convicted of a felony last year and was. Sent to prison, which created [00:16:00] an opening that you are now filling and you’re gonna serve the rest of this term until December of 2026.
You’re gonna be up for election if you choose to for a full term mm-hmm. Of this seat in a primary that should take place in March of 2026. So you get a, a year to introduce yourself to the rest of the voters in the county and start to try to figure out what’s going on. Mm-hmm. And, you know, and appreciate you coming all the way out here to 40 42 to mm-hmm.
To record this. Of course, me being the defacto mayor of Cleveland mm-hmm. I have a chip on my shoulder Sure. And think Cleveland doesn’t get what it deserves. Okay. From the county commissioners. Right. And sometimes I don’t understand the zoning decisions they make. Yeah. And I think that we’re a little bit like Charlotte and we just pay into Smithfield, and Smithfield gives us.
Peanuts back. Okay. But that’s just how people in Cleveland are. Everybody. I’m sure people in Princeton think the same thing. Yeah. And you know, and unfortunately now I’m gonna probably harass you about what I think [00:17:00] Cleveland needs. Okay. You know, for the, for whatever time you’re old, the ERs. Mm-hmm. But, that is normal with any.
Government type thing, whether it’s certain parts of town, if you’re on a town board or certain parts of it, is a very big county. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I mean it’s a huge county. It’s extremely diverse. Yeah. What you understand, you’ve lived here your whole life. Mm-hmm. So it’s it is kind of fascinating. So, I mean, you get on the board and like three weeks later.
The reevaluation notice has come out. Yep. Tell me what that was like and try to explain to the people listing how this process is going to go.
Mike Rose: Okay. Yeah. I’m glad you brought that up. Yeah. So, first off, it didn’t go well. but it’s okay. I understand that. My, my evals were a little bit higher than I thought they should be.
I mean, I’ll be honest, you know, that was as Jocelyn is head of the tax office and said it’s a mass evaluation. Mass appraisal. There was 120,000 properties to appraise in this county, and that was up from a hundred thousand last [00:18:00] Val, so that we haven’t added any land, but it’s just been chopped up that many more times.
So with 120,000 appraisals there’s probably gonna be some mistakes made. I mean, it’s, they will admit to it. So everybody has the opportunity to appeal and they they can go to the, um. johnstonnc.gov or to jcto.org and start that appeal process. and I would say anybody who feels like their property is unfairly appraised, they, that’s what they should do.
I’m all, I would all for that, but yeah, just saying that, so. Just to understand though, because the property value went up, it does not necessarily mean that there’s a tax increase. The tax rate has not been set. So we learned about the property valuations about a day or two before everybody else did.
We were not involved in that at all, and we’re not passing the buck, but that’s just the way it goes. The tax office does their job. They give us the numbers and then we look at the needs of the county and what do we need to meet those needs of the county? What tax rate times that property value gives us that number.
Jonathan Breeden: Well, and the evaluation, [00:19:00] I think it was up, was it 60%? 70%. 70% right. In six years between 2019 and 2025. That’s right. Okay. And next time they’re gonna do this, they’re gonna do it in 2029 and now it’s gonna be every four years. Yep, that’s right. So we won’t have quite the sticker shock. That we have now.
Right. And we had all that, I mean, everybody’s house on the western end of the county went up $150,000 in about 18 months during Covid. Mm-hmm. And I tell people that I would rather have a house than went up. $150,000 in 18 months
Mike Rose: mm-hmm.
Jonathan Breeden: And pay the county a few extra dollars. Mm-hmm. Then not have a house that’s going up.
Because in some places the property values are going backwards in North Carolina.
Mike Rose: Yeah. And let me touch on that because it does show that we’re in a strong, vibrant economy in Johnston County. But because our houses are going up, our properties are going up. We were just in this, class for school of government.
It was down in New Bern. And while we were there, I, I really didn’t really think about it ’cause I’m. From Johnston County. It is a rural county. I grew up baring tobacco, you know, riding on the back of pickup trucks and, this is [00:20:00] was, I kind of still think about it like small, small Johnston County, but we were, Johnston County is.
It’s a big county when you get comparing, there’s a lot of the counties down east and we were listening to their problems and you know they’re talking about having shut down schools. Correct. ’cause there’s not enough kids, you know how they’re gonna make a budget ’cause they don’t have any money coming in.
They have negative growth. Those are not the problems we want to have in Johnston County. So I’m everybody’s got problems, but I’m thankful that these are our problems.
Jonathan Breeden: I agree. I mean, I grew up in Scotland County and they’re closing schools ’cause they have, they don’t have kids. Mm-hmm. And they, they’re looking at negative growth down there in a lot of ways.
And so I understand how it can be the other way. And I will take Johnston County’s problems any day of the week. Mm-hmm. And you know, and you know, so we’ll transition to this, You know, you got appointed, so you didn’t go out and get, you didn’t go out and campaign. So we don’t really know where you are, but there’s a lot of people with this sort of drawbridge syndrome where I live here now, let’s pull up the drawbridge.
Mm-hmm. People can’t come. We don’t need more. People come to Johns county. Roads are crowded, schools are crowded. But that’s [00:21:00] not the reality. People are gonna come here. That’s right.
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Jonathan Breeden: So what are your thoughts on how we’re going to deal with the inevitable growth? Mm-hmm.
Mike Rose: Okay. Well, you’re right, growth is inevitable.
I mean, that, that is where we’re at. that with RTP, where it’s at and 40 and 42 coming through and, and 95, that that’s inevitable. We’re gonna see growth. You know, and, and what we’ve gotta do is just be smart about it and make sure that you know, a big problem is runoff. If we’ve got, you know, so many rooftops, so much asphalt, and then we’ve got flooding issues downstream, those are the things you have to look at.
not to mention, you know, just having access to fresh water and sewer, and [00:22:00] those are big deals. And right now you know, as we get all of our drinking water from the noose, you know, and it’s coming you know, basically downstream from Wake County and there’s a lot of issues with how are we gonna handle that growth?
and so that falls back on. Not just us, but our county staff and I mean, they’re, they’re really the ones that are doing the hard work. I don’t want anybody to think that the county commissioners are, are drawing up engineering plans and, you know, all that. We don’t want that, you know, we’ve got professionals that did that for us.
but yeah, I do think that the growth is, like I said, it’s inevitable and we just got to be smart about it and make sure that it’s the kind of growth we wanna see and that, as we were talking about earlier. The fact is that cost of government is going up every year.
It’s gonna our employees are gonna want pay raises, which they deserve. Equipment’s getting more expensive. Vehicles getting more expensive. Buildings are more expensive. Everything’s more expensive. So how do you handle that as your income needs or your revenue needs are, are going up?
You either. Grow or you raise taxes and [00:23:00] growth. as you may well know, over the last six years, the county commissioners before I got there have lowered taxes four times. So a lot of people don’t forget that, but their, their tax rate is, I think, 11 cents less now than it was in 2019 with no val just because of growth.
So because of growth, we were able to lower county taxes that many times. So, or I say the commissioners work. So, having said all that you know, my opinion is as we said, growth is inevitable. And so we just got to be smart about it. We gotta have proper infrastructure, we gotta have proper runoff plans for all this storm water and, you know, have schools for kids.
There’s a lot of planning going on and I don’t think we can stop the growth and I’m not here to try to stop the growth.
Jonathan Breeden: Okay. And so have you been assigned to. You know, you have to be on lots of committees. Yeah. Yeah. Which, have you been assigned your committees yet?
Mike Rose: Well, actually, I actually, I asked commissioner Lawter about that just a couple days ago because we have not been assigned my committees yet, and those are coming out very soon.
Okay. And [00:24:00] so, yeah, I, I don’t have those yet, but I’m looking forward to that.
Jonathan Breeden: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I don’t think people have any idea how much work being county commissioner is. It is so much work. Mm-hmm. I mean, it’s probably. 30 hours a week at minimum. Mm-hmm. For the amount of work that they have to do.
And they all have regular jobs. I mean, I guess Ted’s maybe retired and Bill’s retired now, but the rest of ’em work. I mean, you know, I mean, like Patrick’s kind of retired. Yeah. but I mean, you know, I know April Stephens works very hard. Works very, you work very hard. Mm-hmm. Michelle’s got her.
Michelle Pace Davis has a farm. Yep. I dunno how much work that is. And she has a small child. I mean, it’s, yep. It’s, it’s a lot. Butch Lawter’s an engineer. Yeah. Like I, I don’t how y’all find the time to do it. It’s, it’s a ton of work. But so what is, before we get into the last couple questions here, what is sort of your vision now?
I mean, you’ve only been on there a couple of months. By the time this comes out, it’ll probably be three or four months, but I mean, what do you, what do you want the citizens to know about. Your vision and what you’re gonna try to do for the citizens of this county.
Mike Rose: Okay. before I answer that, [00:25:00] I did want to say kind of what you were talking about is that in my short time on the board, I have Bill been really impressed with everyone’s commitment to Johnston County.
I’ve not seen anything and I do not believe that any of the commissioners have any self-interest in it. Where they, they, we all kinda laugh about how much time. We do have to put into it. It is a lot. and I don’t think, and they told me like, when you apply for this, get ready, get ready. And I believed them. And, and you know, it, it’s, luckily they were able to give me warnings that it was gonna be kinda like it is, but it is, it hasn’t even exceeded that. But, but having said all that, yeah. What I want to do for Johnston County is I want, I wanna make sure that that I am a voice for our constituents, our residents, as I am, and you are one too.
And, you know, it’s important to me that I. We balance the needs of the county with, what we can expect to be a fair amount of, requests from our citizens when it comes to this new Rev and this new tax rate. It [00:26:00] would be real easy to just say, well, we’re just dropped the tax rate, you know. 10 cents or whatever, and that generates an extra, I’m just throwing out number, maybe even $50 million or something for the county to spend.
But you know, that’s not what I want to do is look at how much is it affecting the average homeowner, what is their out-of-pocket? Doesn’t matter what, what the rate is, what is their out-of-pocket cost at the end of the day, you know, when they’ve gotta write that tax that check to the tax office at the end of the year, is this year gonna be substantially.
More than last year, and, and I hope that it will not be I’ll just be one voice on there. But the other thing is that I hope to provide to the county is just having been here for all my life, just have a, I’m not professing to be an expert at any one thing. I, I think I’m, I’m kind of good at knowing what I don’t know and trying to ask the right questions when that comes up.
And so, from my standpoint, what I’ll try to do is just provide a, a levelheaded opinion. When I vote, it’ll be what I think is the best for the county. And, you know, I don’t have any, [00:27:00] any agenda any specific like. Projects that I’m necessarily working on. I just wanna be able to represent us as a whole.
And, and of course my district. I wanna get around and meet as many people as I can from the whole county, but especially from my district is where I represent. and see what their needs are and what they’re asking for. Just like we had a meeting last night with the fire department and Tahir, you know, they had some complaints some legitimate complaints and some that, you know. It is their job to try to get all that they can. Just like the school board’s gonna present a giant request, I’m sure it’s their job to try to get all that they can. And it’s our job to try to keep everything in check and not, not, you know, ask too much from our citizens for those things.
Jonathan Breeden: Well, that’s great. That’s great. Well, the last question I’ll ask you this time, but we’re definitely gonna have you back as you get into it for sure, is what do you love most about Johnston County?
Mike Rose: That was one of the questions on the questionnaire is like, what do I wanna see changed by Johnston County?
Or not even changed, just what do you love? No, but that, that was the question I put on the question. That was kind of the [00:28:00] thing. It was only the questionnaire and I was like, you know, I don’t, I mean, change, I don’t know. I, I mean, I, it’s home. I love it. And so what do I love about Johnston County? I, I love that it’s, I live in a little town, you know, Princeton, a thousand people. All right. You would think if I, if I met somebody from New York and they said, you live in a town of a thousand people, it must be Hicksville or something, you know? But yeah, it is not, it’s rural, it’s small. I can get anything I need.
Almost within the town. And if not, you know, we’re at, at 40 minutes from a major airport. You know, it’s, it is, we’re still rural, we’re still small enough that we’re still community. It still has an identity as a farming county. I think still glad to see the jobs coming in from, you know, the western part of the county through the pharmaceutical industry of course.
But you know, all of these things. Made Johnston County exciting place to live. when I started looking at some facts about Johnston County, of course, we are by percentage, the fastest growing county in the state of 14%, I [00:29:00] believe. I. We’re the ninth’s, largest county in the state, but yet, when you look at our county, we don’t have any cities.
You know, when you look at the top counties, you got Mecklenburg, they got Charlotte, you got Raleigh and Wake, you got Forsyth and Winston-Salem. All of the ones bigger than us have a a recognizable city. we’re just a conglomeration of small towns and I really like that, you know, um. whether it’s Micro or Kinley or Clayton, you know, we’re Clayton of course our biggest town, but still it still has a small town, five Hill, and I like that.
Jonathan Breeden: Well, and the Cleveland Township is bigger than all of those. Yeah, that’s true. Even though we’re not a town. Yeah. So anyway, we would like to thank Mike Rose Johnston County Commissioner from coming and being on. With our podcast here today. As we mentioned earlier, please like, follow, describe this podcast wherever you’re seeing it.
We’ll give your comments down below. We’ll make sure we get those to him. If you have any questions for him or whatever reach out to him at his business there. And Princeton as well. We’d be love to make some t-shirts for you. Until next time, I’m your host, Jonathan Breeden.
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As someone who’s called Johnston County home for over 20 years, I’m always excited to share stories of the people who make our community so unique. Recently, I had the pleasure of talking with Mike Rose, a lifelong resident of Princeton who has now stepped into the role of County Commissioner. Our conversation was as rich in local pride as it was in practical insights—so much so that I felt compelled to share his journey in my own words.
Deep Local Roots and a Multifaceted Journey
I was immediately struck by Mike’s deep connection to our county. He grew up in Princeton, attended Princeton High School, and even ventured to NC State before transferring to East Carolina University. Mike then spent nine years as a teacher in our area, working at schools in Smithfield, Selma, and right here in Princeton, including a brief stint at an Alternative Learning Center. And as if that wasn’t enough, he also built Quick Shirts—his screen-printing business that started in his attic with just $1,700 and a VHS tape tutorial—into a thriving enterprise that’s now been a part of our community for over 30 years.
From Town Board Triumphs to County Challenges
Mike shared with me some of the challenges and triumphs he experienced on the Princeton Town Board over his 11-year tenure. I learned how he was instrumental in lifting a sewer moratorium during those torrential rains that pushed our local system to its limits and how he helped rework storm water management along Beaver Dam Creek to clear debris after severe floods. These were not just technical fixes; they were about preserving the life and vibrancy of our town.
Now, stepping into his new role as County Commissioner, Mike faces an even broader stage. His district now stretches from Princeton through Southern Ana County to areas like Benson, Four Oaks, and Bentonville. Growth is inevitable, as he explained—especially when we consider that our property evaluations jumped by 70% recently. While that number might sound alarming, Mike reassured me that a higher evaluation doesn’t automatically mean a tax hike. Homeowners still have the opportunity to appeal, and the tax rate is set later based on careful consideration of our county’s needs.
Balancing Vision, Workload, and Community Spirit
Throughout our conversation, Mike was refreshingly candid about the realities of public service. I was amused to hear him mention the “drawbridge syndrome”—a local joke about how some folks feel new growth might lock them out of our tight-knit community. He also acknowledged the heavy workload of being a county commissioner—about 30 hours a week, on top of everything else. Even though he’s still waiting for his committee assignments, he’s eager to ask the right questions and represent every part of our county with a clear head and a warm heart.
A Heartfelt Vision for Johnston County
At its core, Mike’s vision is to serve as a genuine voice for all residents. He’s committed to ensuring that any changes in our tax rate are fair, keeping a sharp focus on what matters most: the out-of-pocket impact on the average homeowner. His approach isn’t about chasing big projects or political agendas; it’s about learning what he doesn’t know, listening to our community, and making balanced decisions that protect our local way of life.
I was also heartened to hear him express pride in our county’s resilience. Despite rapid growth and the challenges that come with it, Johnston County remains vibrant, retaining its rural charm while welcoming progress—whether through new local eateries like Oli & Eli’s and Bread & Bottle or through the steady, community-focused efforts of local government.
A Community Guided by Shared Laughter and Determination
Our conversation wasn’t all technical details and policy discussions. We also shared a few laughs over local rivalries and the quirks of our community life. It’s this blend of humor, hard work, and genuine care for our neighbors that makes Johnston County such a special place to live.
As I reflect on my conversation with Mike Rose, I’m reminded why I love this community so much. Johnston County isn’t just a place on a map—it’s home. And with dedicated voices like Mike’s leading the way, I’m confident that our future will be as bright as our past is cherished.
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